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Post by j2 on Oct 20, 2011 13:26:31 GMT -5
There was some discussion over beers about how to encourage new people to come out moped racing.. And the suggestion thrown my may was to make two moped classes. I really liked the idea. I do realize we would need the numbers to justify it, but if we can get enough interest in it then I think we should gear up for it for next season.
Idea is as follows:
"Pro class" anything goes, under the current rules.
"Superstock" single and two speed non variated bikes. no case boring for 80 kits.
The superstock class would be for more affordable entry level bikes such as puchs and tomos, etc. keep the arms race down a bit and make it less intimidating for new racers. Thoughts?
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Post by paddyfitz on Oct 20, 2011 16:56:49 GMT -5
I like the idea. My immediate thought is that the building of the bikes has rarely been the cost preventative issue from the people I've overheard talking. The larger... let's call it 'inhibitor' for the moped set sounds like it's more about the cost of the gear & track fees. That being said... Our local tracks have offered the lowest fees I've ever heard of & as a group I feel like we've been pretty on top of helping people get leathers. I think getting people out there on like-powered bikes does sort of level the playing field. So with that in mind - yeah - it might get more people out & participating. Now - how do you make the idea of racing a stock moped sound exciting? Most of these peeps don't even wanna ride a completely stock bike around in the streets...  ;D |
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Post by nerdspeed on Oct 20, 2011 17:06:12 GMT -5
I whole heartedly support this idea and am now looking for an e50 and frame.  |
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Post by j2 on Oct 20, 2011 20:52:27 GMT -5
We aren't talking stock cylinders. Just no 80 metras or gilardoni kits. 70 cc and under, off the shelf kits for mopeds, pipes, and carbs are all OK. Just trying to offer a more entry level class. No amount of tuning is going to make a non variated bike keep up with a variated bike. I will probably try to track my garelli for this class, or maybe an e50.
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Post by Angus on Oct 21, 2011 11:09:32 GMT -5
Ooooo, the Jawa would fit right in (at the back of the pack).
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Post by nerdspeed on Oct 30, 2011 12:36:52 GMT -5
Can I get a permission slip to run the cylinder I made? It's not off-the shelf, but it is air-cooled and only a 50cc, so.... that kinda balances right?  |
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Post by j2 on Nov 1, 2011 12:40:01 GMT -5
What is cylinder it modeled after? I am ok with it.
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Post by nerdspeed on Nov 1, 2011 21:13:46 GMT -5
 It was an original design, but strongly influenced by Puch Magnum / Gilardoni cylinders. The cast iron is out of a Kymco Super 9, modified for the change in stroke. |
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Post by jstephenson on Nov 17, 2011 15:37:39 GMT -5
Some of us have been talking about it and really it comes down to super fast extreme builds vs. easier slower builds. Rules wise it would be hard to make a distinction but you can tell pretty easy by looking at the bikes and how fast they go. The idea is a class you can ride in with your street bike and have a better chance of winning or being competitive without building a really expensive bike. Making it 1/2 speed transmissions vs. variated seems to be a pretty easy distinction to make since they are a lot cheaper and easier to build. They tend to be more reliable as well so total cost goes down for the season. Racing a V1 or E-50 is so much cheaper than a hobbit or ciao. Also I'd get to double class finally and have fun. So there's that.
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Post by j2 on Jan 3, 2012 19:51:07 GMT -5
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Post by jstephenson on Jan 8, 2012 21:53:21 GMT -5
So they have dates up for OSB at mac:
March 17/18
April 14/15
May 26/27
June 9/10
July 7/8
Aug 24/25
Sep 29/30
Oct 27/28
With the addition of the increase of fees for race day to $90 ($70 with PKA membership) that works out to be a little over a grand in track fees if you do both days every time. I was talking it over with some of the dudes and think that doing the local for mopeds would be the best way to go after looking at the tentative schedule for scooters. Also thinking about picking 6 of the weekends to do for points and have the first weekend for practice, tech inspection, and getting people familiar with the track. Sort of a practice day only event so we can save money a little and give people time to finish bikes and check track worthyness. Also as a thought about dividing the classes up I think it might work best if instead of doing it based on bike build itself it would make more sense to divide it up based on lap times. If you can make a lap faster than x time then you are in the fast, if you are slower then you're slow. We just have to setup what the divider would be, which we could do on the first practice pretty easy. That eliminates really fast single speeds being in slow, and slow variated in fast.
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Post by Dayn on Jan 8, 2012 22:20:51 GMT -5
That lap time idea is a good one. When Angus and I went out with our local super bike club they had a race for riders over a certain lap time. If a racer lapped faster then the he would be disqualified. You could do something similar but instead of being disqualified then the rider would be bumped to the next class. They all had transponders though...
I've seen lap timers going on ebay in lots of 5... works out to be around $42 a piece....
Cheers
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